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Joe Start
Joseph Start (Old Reliable or Rocks)

Bats Left, Throws Left
Height 5' 9", Weight 165 lb.

Debut May 18, 1871
Final Game July 9, 1886
Born October 14, 1842 in New York, NY
Died March 27, 1927 in Providence, RI

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        Elected to the Hall of Merit in October 2003 (for 1912)...Joe belongs in the HOF...incredible 27-year career that began before the Civil War and lasted until 1886

Batting  Glossary / Neutralize Stats
 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1871 28 NYU NA  33  161   35   58   5  1   1   34   4  2   3   0  .360  .372  .422  136   68                    
 1872 29 NYU NA  55  282   62   76   4  0   0   50   3  3   0   0  .270  .270  .284   74   80                    
 1873 30 NYU NA  53  251   42   67   8  3   1   28   1  0   4   0  .267  .278  .335   82   84                    
 1874 31 NYU NA  63  306   67   96  13  3   2   45   5  0   4   0  .314  .323  .395  125  121                    
 1875 32 NYU NA  69  314   58   90  10  5   4   30   1  4   3   0  .287  .293  .389  135  122                    
 1876 33 NYU NL  56  264   40   73   6  0   0   21          1   2  .277  .279  .299   96   79                    
 1877 34 HAR NL  60  271   55   90   3  6   1   21          6   2  .332  .347  .399  144  108                    
 1878 35 CHC NL  61  285   58  100  12  5   1   27          2   3  .351  .355  .439  153  125                    
 1879 36 PRO NL  66  317   70  101  11  5   2   37          7   4  .319  .333  .404  142  128                    
 1880 37 PRO NL  82  345   53   96  14  6   0   27         13  20  .278  .304  .354  125  122                    
 1881 38 PRO NL  79  348   56  114  12  6   0   29          9   7  .328  .345  .397  133  138                    
 1882 39 PRO NL  82  356   58  117   8 10   0   48         11   7  .329  .349  .407  142  145                    
 1883 40 PRO NL  87  370   63  105  16  7   1   57         22  16  .284  .324  .373  108  138                    
 1884 41 PRO NL  93  381   80  105  10  5   2   32         35  25  .276  .337  .344  117  131                    
 1885 42 PRO NL 101  374   47  103  11  4   0   41         39  10  .275  .344  .326  121  122                    
 1886 43 WHS NL  31  122   10   27   4  1   0   17   4      5  13  .221  .252  .270   63   33                    
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 16 Seasons    1071 4747  854 1418 147 67  15  544  18  9 164 109  .299  .322  .367  121 1744   0   0   0   0   0
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 162 Game Avg        718  129  214  22 10   2   82   3  1  25  16  .299  .322  .367  121  264   0   0   0   0   0
 Career High    101  381   80  117  16 10   4   57   5  4  39  25  .360  .372  .439  153  145   0   0   0   0   0
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
Special Batting  Glossary
 Year Ag Tm  Lg  PA  Outs  RC  RC/G   AIR    BA *lgBA   OBP *lgOBP  SLG *lgSLG  OPS *lgOPS*OPS+  OWP *BtRns BtWin SB% 
+--------------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+
 1871 28 NYU NA  164  105   25   6.3    83| .360  .278| .372  .302| .422  .373| .794  .675| 136  .570   7.6   0.7  66%
 1872 29 NYU NA  282  209   21   2.7    73| .270  .282| .270  .293| .284  .344| .554  .637|  74  .272  -8.1  -0.8  50%
 1873 30 NYU NA  255  184   24   3.5    83| .267  .295| .278  .308| .335  .365| .613  .673|  82  .364  -5.4  -0.5 100%
 1874 31 NYU NA  310  210   40   5.1    73| .314  .282| .323  .291| .395  .346| .718  .637| 125  .607   8.5   0.9 100%
 1875 32 NYU NA  317  228   34   4.0    57| .287  .256| .293  .264| .389  .314| .682  .578| 135  .587  10.5   1.2  20%
 1876 33 NYU NL  265  191   22   3.2    62| .277  .262| .279  .275| .299  .318| .578  .593|  96  .437  -1.3  -0.1     
 1877 34 HAR NL  277  181   37   5.5    66| .332  .264| .347  .282| .399  .329| .746  .611| 144  .659  12.5   1.3     
 1878 35 CHC NL  287  185   44   6.4    71| .351  .272| .355  .291| .439  .335| .794  .626| 153  .759  15.6   1.8     
 1879 36 PRO NL  324  216   43   5.4    66| .319  .259| .333  .274| .404  .335| .737  .609| 142  .688  13.7   1.5     
 1880 37 PRO NL  358  249   37   4.0    60| .278  .243| .304  .266| .354  .321| .658  .587| 125  .601   8.6   1.0     
 1881 38 PRO NL  357  234   48   5.5    73| .328  .262| .345  .293| .397  .344| .742  .636| 133  .675  12.2   1.3     
 1882 39 PRO NL  367  239   51   5.7    70| .329  .254| .349  .281| .407  .346| .756  .627| 142  .695  15.2   1.7     
 1883 40 PRO NL  392  265   45   4.5    83| .284  .271| .324  .299| .373  .374| .697  .673| 108  .555   3.6   0.4     
 1884 41 PRO NL  416  276   44   4.2    72| .276  .248| .337  .288| .344  .344| .681  .632| 117  .564   8.2   0.9     
 1885 42 PRO NL  413  271   42   4.1    66| .275  .242| .344  .285| .326  .324| .670  .610| 121  .588  10.3   1.2     
 1886 43 WHS NL  127   95    8   2.2    75| .221  .251| .252  .299| .270  .343| .522  .643|  63  .275  -5.3  -0.6     
+--------------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+
 16 Seasons     4911 3338  565   4.5    70| .299  .263| .322  .286| .367  .340| .689  .626| 121  .582 106.4  11.9     

* indicates the value is park adjusted (now all 3-year factors)
Fielding  Glossary / Sort by Position, then Year
 Year Ag Tm  Lg Pos   G     PO    A    E   DP    FP   lgFP  RFg  lgRFg  RF9  lgRF9  LF   CF   RF
+--------------+---+----+------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+
+---- Fielding Sorted by Year ------+
1871 28 NYU NA 1B 33 334 2 29 11 .921 .929 10.18 10.21 1872 29 NYU NA 1B 55 509 0 24 26 .955 .927 9.25 10.36 1873 30 NYU NA 1B 53 413 18 26 19 .943 .928 8.13 10.20 OF 2 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.90 0 0 2 1874 31 NYU NA 1B 63 560 13 23 13 .961 .932 9.10 10.21 OF 2 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.90 1 1 0 1875 32 NYU NA 1B 69 702 12 39 20 .948 .936 10.35 10.28 1876 33 NYU NL 1B 56 547 10 21 11 .964 .942 9.95 10.31 1877 34 HAR NL 1B 60 704 10 27 25 .964 .951 11.90 10.63 1878 35 CHC NL 1B 61 719 13 33 28 .957 .956 12.00 11.42 1879 36 PRO NL 1B 65 779 11 22 24 .973 .953 12.15 10.89 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.80 0 0 1 1880 37 PRO NL 1B 82 954 10 29 30 .971 .959 11.76 10.24 1881 38 PRO NL 1B 79 837 17 33 50 .963 .960 10.81 10.43 1882 39 PRO NL 1B 82 905 21 25 54 .974 .958 11.29 10.30 1883 40 PRO NL 1B 87 923 29 43 48 .957 .961 10.94 10.47 1884 41 PRO NL 1B 93 939 21 20 31 .980 .962 10.32 10.32 1885 42 PRO NL 1B 101 1036 35 31 42 .972 .970 10.60 9.90 1886 43 WHS NL 1B 31 348 7 10 16 .973 .968 11.45 10.26
+---- Fielding Sorted by Position --+
1871 28 NYU NA 1B 33 334 2 29 11 .921 .929 10.18 10.21 1872 29 NYU NA 1B 55 509 0 24 26 .955 .927 9.25 10.36 1873 30 NYU NA 1B 53 413 18 26 19 .943 .928 8.13 10.20 1874 31 NYU NA 1B 63 560 13 23 13 .961 .932 9.10 10.21 1875 32 NYU NA 1B 69 702 12 39 20 .948 .936 10.35 10.28 1876 33 NYU NL 1B 56 547 10 21 11 .964 .942 9.95 10.31 1877 34 HAR NL 1B 60 704 10 27 25 .964 .951 11.90 10.63 1878 35 CHC NL 1B 61 719 13 33 28 .957 .956 12.00 11.42 1879 36 PRO NL 1B 65 779 11 22 24 .973 .953 12.15 10.89 1880 37 PRO NL 1B 82 954 10 29 30 .971 .959 11.76 10.24 1881 38 PRO NL 1B 79 837 17 33 50 .963 .960 10.81 10.43 1882 39 PRO NL 1B 82 905 21 25 54 .974 .958 11.29 10.30 1883 40 PRO NL 1B 87 923 29 43 48 .957 .961 10.94 10.47 1884 41 PRO NL 1B 93 939 21 20 31 .980 .962 10.32 10.32 1885 42 PRO NL 1B 101 1036 35 31 42 .972 .970 10.60 9.90 1886 43 WHS NL 1B 31 348 7 10 16 .973 .968 11.45 10.26 1873 30 NYU NA OF 2 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.90 0 0 2 1874 31 NYU NA OF 2 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.90 1 1 0 1879 36 PRO NL OF 1 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.80 0 0 1
+--------------+---+----+------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+ Position Total 1B 1070 11209 229 435 448 .963 .952 10.69 10.39 OF 5 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.88 1 1 3 +--------------+---+----+------+----+----+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+ Overall Total 1075 11209 229 435 448 .963 .952 10.64 10.35
An Important note about our fielding stats

Postseason Batting Gamelogs / Vs. Pitcher

 Year   Round Tm  Opp WLser  G   AB  R   H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   SB CS  SH  SF HBP
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+
 1884   WS    PRO NYP     W   3  10   0   1  0  0  0   1   0   2  .100  .100  .100   0                
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+---+--+---+---+---+

WLser shows whether the player's team Won or Lost the series.
Appearances on Leaderboards and Awards   Glossary

Awards are Year-League-Award, Stats are Year-Value-Rank, (Pos) for All-Star indicates starter & * indicates they played.

Batting Average
1871 NA-.360-9
1877 NL-.332-6
1878 NL-.351-4
1879 NL-.319-7
1881 NL-.328-4
1882 NL-.329-4

On-base %
1877 NL-.347-8
1878 NL-.355-6
1879 NL-.333-10
1882 NL-.349-6

Slugging %
1878 NL-.439-6

OPS
1877 NL-.745-9
1878 NL-.794-3
1882 NL-.756-9

Games
1871 NA-33-1
1872 NA-55-6
1877 NL-60-10

At Bats
1871 NA-161-4
1872 NA-282-5
1874 NA-306-10
1877 NL-271-6
1878 NL-285-1

Plate Appearances (approx.)
1871 NA-164-6
1872 NA-282-5
1874 NA-310-10
1877 NL-277-6
1878 NL-287-2

Runs
1877 NL-55-4
1878 NL-58-2
1879 NL-70-7

Hits
1871 NA-58-4
1874 NA-96-9
1877 NL-90-5
1878 NL-100-1
1881 NL-114-4
1882 NL-117-3

Total Bases
1871 NA-68-10
1877 NL-108-9
1878 NL-125-1

Doubles
1874 NA-13-8
1878 NL-12-8

Triples
1878 NL-5-7
1882 NL-10-9

Home Runs
1874 NA-2-5
1875 NA-4-2
1877 NL-1-6
1878 NL-1-5
1879 NL-2-5

RBI
1871 NA-34-5
1872 NA-50-2
1874 NA-45-9

Bases on Balls
1884 NL-35-10

Singles
1871 NA-51-2
1872 NA-72-7
1874 NA-78-8
1877 NL-80-2
1878 NL-82-1
1879 NL-83-7
1880 NL-76-10
1881 NL-96-2
1882 NL-99-1

Adjusted OPS+
1877 NL-144-7
1878 NL-153-5
1879 NL-142-10
1882 NL-142-9

Runs Created
1871 NA-25-8
1877 NL-37-8
1878 NL-44-3
1879 NL-43-10
1881 NL-48-10
1882 NL-51-9

Adjusted Batting Runs
1877 NL-12-8
1878 NL-16-4
1879 NL-14-10
1882 NL-15-10

Batting Wins
1871 NA-.7-10
1877 NL-1.3-7
1878 NL-1.8-3
1879 NL-1.5-10
1882 NL-1.7-9

Extra-Base Hits
1874 NA-18-10
1878 NL-18-8

Times on Base
1871 NA-61-5
1874 NA-100-8
1877 NL-96-6
1878 NL-102-2
1881 NL-123-9
1882 NL-128-5

Offensive Win%
1877 NL-.659-9
1878 NL-.759-4
1879 NL-.688-9
1882 NL-.695-8

Power/Speed Number
1874 NA-2.9-5

At Bats per Strikeout
1876 NL-132.0-4
1877 NL-135.5-1
1878 NL-95.0-2
1879 NL-79.3-2
1881 NL-49.7-5
1882 NL-50.9-1
1883 NL-23.1-10
1885 NL-37.4-4
Car-43.6-3

At Bats per Home Run
1874 NA-153.0-10
1875 NA-78.5-2
1879 NL-158.5-5

Outs
1872 NA-209-2

Oldest Player
1874 NA-31-9
1875 NA-32-10
1876 NL-33-6
1877 NL-34-3
1878 NL-35-2
1879 NL-36-1
1880 NL-37-1
1881 NL-38-1
1882 NL-39-1
1883 NL-40-1
1884 NL-41-1
1885 NL-42-1
1886 NL-43-1

   

Black Ink: Batting - 5 (367) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting - 102 (215) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting - 12.0 (1337) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 3.0 (1687) (Likely HOFer > 100)
Overall Rank in parentheses.

Act.- Denotes rank among active players, Car. - Denotes career rank
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Transactions 

November 30, 1885: Returned to league control by the Providence Grays.

March 3, 1886: Under league control and obtained by the Washington Nationals.


The transaction information used here was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. Last transaction is September 30, 2007.
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